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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
整套宗教的设定（除了东亚宗教突然出现黑山羊比较跳戏）、影片的互动性、还有结尾类似叙诡的反转，都算是比较优秀的创新点。但是最致命的问题还是，作为伪纪录片在素材的组织和视角的选用上还是存在很多问题，其实也没比《灵媒》强多少。至于那些因为“晦气”打差评的，建议是去重读幼儿园😅。
友邻的评论里有认为电影的成功是建立在病毒式营销上的，但是作为大陆观众的我根本没看过相关广告，只知道它是台湾近期的高口碑恐怖片，以一个普通观众的来看，我真的认为电影拍得很不错，虽然伪纪录片形式没贯彻到底，但氛围还是到位了；
最后难道此片有意不支持生育吗？
垃圾片子，故弄玄虚，完全不觉得恐怖，不如《中邪》…沾了晦气还浪费两个小时…
利用了视觉停留创意十足，就是观感不太好，眼睛都要瞎了，最后还跟观众开了个玩笑，导演还是很有想法的。
我喜欢里面的视错觉运用，尤其是结尾翻译经文的时候，利用黑白对比，让咒符在画面消失之后，依然在眼前闪烁。
但比较粗糙，每次想到女主拍摄的机位就有点点出戏，但也正是这点出戏，让我还有勇气继续看下去哈哈。
还行吧 勉强四星 还是有蛮多细节值得推敲的
演技不佳？恐怕只有医生道出女儿最喜欢的三件宝母亲崩溃是少有的真情流露，其余全是"演技"。
女主对着镜头说，你们都替我女儿分担这个诅咒 吧，然后诅咒所有看电影的观众。
3.5分。 没有那么晦气，当然，真的看完觉得晦气了，还是因为信了导演的邪了，越是相信片子里的恐怖逻辑，就越是在现实里面逃不开，觉得自己遭到诅咒了。 其实，这是一种媒介恐惧。早年间的邵氏巫术电影，用的是虫子、器皿和神像，后来日本电影有用电话的，也有用录像带的，到了前些年还有用DV机的，以及所谓的桌面电影的，当然还包括本片里面的网络影片传播的概念。越是和当代人贴近的恐怖媒介，越是适合用来做恐怖片的手段。
说晦气的，怕晦气就别看恐怖片吧。我倒觉得大家没那么容易被诅咒，就那几个字绝大多数人都认不全呢……还念出来😅念得出来吗。话说回来我中间就猜到这个女人要害人，叙事逻辑大可不用这么乱。
觉得晦气也没用了，早在相册里看了佛母的自拍照了（上传这个到相册的豆友夺笋呐！我当时还仔细端详了一番。）
这片在能看之前很久就已经噱头十足，可惜，看了之后比较失望；中途多次睡着，醒了又倒回重放。。。
★★★☆☆ “谨以此片纪念我的小天使。”（？）我怎么觉得，这才是此片最关键的画面。
影片值4星，还有一星给难得的好恐怖片还有那些觉得晦气的人拉低的分。从剧情到小陷阱的设置，都很用心，让人觉得晦气，那就对了，要的就是这种抓心挠肺的感觉，要的就是破除迷信，晦气福气之类的糟粕。谁看恐怖片是来讨吉利的？视觉暂留的小把戏也是很妙了，肉眼4D的视效了。唯一有点不明白的是，改个名字的事情，有这么难吗。
还行吧，恐怖片看多了阈值就会提高，各种恐怖元素都不算新鲜
福祸相倚，敢情你的剧情全是不幸啊！还有很多地方没有说通，不过也不能强求了。为美术加一分吧，下次不许这么密集了！虫子像蚕宝宝，太无辜了。
以往恐怖片想营造真实感，就到伪纪录片、第一视角、镜头视角为止。柯孟融更进一步，通过视错觉、视觉残影等方式先与观众互动，接着让女主隔屏与观众对话，博取同情召唤“元气弹”直至反转（前期警告、中段对手势的推测等伏笔很多，但观众一定会看下去，剧组吃透了这种“好奇心”）。另外出彩在分几幕叙述并让过去与现在双线并进，过去线交待6年前女主跟随男友如何一步步深入男友老家、不小心接触到大黑佛母并被下咒；现在线讲述女主领养女儿遭逢神降、为救助女儿而采取措施。两线一明一暗用最大的谜团“隧道尽头有什么”挑起观众解谜欲，并将6年前隧道视频作压轴。民俗学作为背景点缀是到位的。不足是每个吓点都较老套，即使最后掀开佛母头巾一幕也无太大冲击。可谓叙述创新大于吓人手法了。
惊吓桥段不多，重在氛围的掌控。最后几分钟有很强的互动感，除此之外，就没什么了……
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